UPDATE: Links to all five "Male Virgins" listed here and at the bottom of this post.
Giant Male Virgin #1: The Erotic Poet.
Giant Male Virgin #2: The Rock Star.
Giant Male Virgin #3: The Young Theologian.
Giant Male Virgin #4: The Patient Pastor.
Giant Male Virgin #5: The Newlywed Seminarian.
This week The Giant is featuring several guest posts on a topic near and dear to me: sweet virginity.
Okay, well, maybe not sweet virginity. The posts are on male virginity until marriage.
There is an ocean of articles, stories, and opinions on American sexual behavior we could explore together. These works are largely untrustworthy, given the nature of the subject, the biases of sociologists, and the straight freakiness one would never be far from (Alfred Kinsey preferred to masturbate by inserting a toothbrush into his urethra; this was the least of his perversions, yet he was trusted as the defining word on American sexual behavior). Still, many trends and tendencies are obvious even to those of us who only use toothbrushes for toothbrushing.
Many many most Americans have sex before they marry (I've seen numbers as high as 95%), and most of them not with the person they end up marrying. I'm not going to link to any reports. As I said, I am very skeptical of such reports, but they're very easy to find online, and even if they're not factually accurate, they tell an accurate story.
So most people have sex before they marry, which we are told is natural and healthy. We hear of the existence of strange people who fall outside the pale of normal behavior, and we raise our eyebrows but affirm their right to healthy alternativity; strange creatures such as asexuals and nonsexuals who prefer not to have or never have had sex but are distinct from virgins. Strange, perhaps, not normal, but since they claim to lack the appetites the rest of us have, how can we expect them to need to satisfy them?
The true perversion is evident in people who claim to have sexual appetites, but wait an unhealthy amount of time, until they're all grown up and married.
In a fun little twist on top of that little idea is a touch of misogyny. We say it's unhealthy to suppress overmuch our sexual drive, and we include women in that statement. After all we, unlike those stupid Victorians, know that women have robust sexual appetites. Yet if we hear a woman claim that she was virgin until she married, we might feel a touch of condescension and pity, but we'll believe her. We don't believe men when they make the same claim.
I was a virgin when I married at twenty-two. When people hear this they are absolutely blown away. Seriously. They are blown away; they look as if they cannot believe it. Some have outright claimed to not believe me. The only way I can think to explain it is that I am a handsome healthy male free of any crippling social handicaps. Many people firmly believe that the only way a male would make it into early adulthood without having had sex would be if it had been against his will.
This is the dominant view of sexual development in the young American male: a single-minded obsession with mating grows with each passing post-pubescent moment until the subject is in agony, an agony which is only relieved when the male find a female to mate with. Countless stupid movies testify to this.
This has always offended me. It makes men seem like animals. Sadly, the longer we portray men as animals, the more they actually behave as if they were.
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I don't claim that I was absolutely "pure" before I married. I got involved in some situations that in a different cultural context would have placed me in serious trouble, regardless of whether I was "technically" a virgin or not. And I don't get hung up on being a virgin. What I do get hung up on is the disbelief and condescension that accompanies claims by Christian males to be virgin. And this is because I was far from unique. My wife and I met at a Christian student union in college. I knew lots of guys who were virgins, I knew guys who weren't virgins but were celibate, and I knew guys who were almost certainly not virgining, if you'll allow the term.
The point is, I grew up in a milieu in which it was not crazy that a male might be a virgin by choice. And I didn't grow up Prairie Muffin or King James-only fundamentalist. Nor did I grow up at 1st Mainstream Baptist or Megachurch 3000.
When I thought of doing this series of guest posts I thought I'd ask a few guys who met these criteria to contribute:
- Christian
- married
- cool guy (to be free of the dismissive "he couldn't get laid if he tried" charge)
- had been a virgin until marriage (obviously)
- good writer
- different perspective from the other guest bloggers
There's nothing scientific about that. I'm just illustrating that there are entire communities out there where being a young male virgin is pretty normal. These are not freaky little cult communities, just Christian cultures full of people who study civil engineering or play football or listen to Neutral Milk Hotel or love history or watch too much TV. I'm not surprised to know lots of men who were virgins until they married.
Some of my Christian friends grew up in the church and couldn't wait to get out from under. They hated the notion that as youngsters they couldn't have sex, or that the price they'd have to pay was so high. But the truth is, at the time those young men hated Christ. They didn't want anything to do with Jesus and his Church, but they were too scared to up and leave, so they were full of resentment. When I was in high school I knew plenty of guys like that. What was normal for me, however, was hanging with a bunch of virgins who expected to be virgins until they married, and while it might have been a struggle, it only made them look forward to marriage, not resent their situation.
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Today I had a conversation with wifey that is tangentially connected to all this.
Me: "We're pals."
Wifey: "Don't call me 'pal'. We're not pals. We're..."
Me: "Lovers?" *suggestive eyebrow waggle*
Wifey: "No! 'Lovers' isn't enough! We're husband and wife."
That is correct. You will notice, if you choose to read the guest posts throughout this week, that intimacy is a big part of what is being discussed. It's not just popular Christian "mean girls" played by Mandy Moore who believe that premarital sex can make intimacy in a marriage more difficult. It's also dudes with beards and plaid shirts.
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I hope that no one will be offended for the wrong reasons during this series. That is to say, I don't mind if you're offended, but don't be offended because you or someone you love isn't a virgin. Love covers a multitude of sins. I don't care if you're not a virgin; I do care if you're faithful to Christ. And I'm not going to write a million myriads of posts to preserve everyone's feelings. We're talking about this thing right here. Pose your what-ifs, but don't get pissed about it.
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Below are the questions I asked of these guys, and I hope you'll find their responses interesting. Expect one or two a day for the rest of the week.
You were a virgin until you married. How old were you at that time?There it is. Hopefully this will be theologically, sociologically, and phenomenologically interesting. And yes, I know the preceding sentence sounded douchey. Enjoy the posts. If you want to send in feedback without using the comment form, email me here.
If a [Christian] man is not a virgin when he marries, how big a deal is that?
I've noticed that people have a hard time believing a young man could stay a virgin by choice. That is, that sex is impossible to resist for any length of time. I'm sure that it was difficult, but how difficult was it, really? What kind of struggle was it?
You must be some kind of wuss. So must other "wait 'til we're married" guys. What do you say to that?
What good did staying a virgin until marriage do you?
If you haven't already answered this question, how would you say it impacted your marriage? your sex life?
Giant Male Virgin #1: The Erotic Poet.
Giant Male Virgin #2: The Rock Star.
Giant Male Virgin #3: The Young Theologian.
Giant Male Virgin #4: The Patient Pastor.
Giant Male Virgin #5: The Newlywed Seminarian.
I was a virgin until I married at 24. My wife was also a virgin. I guess I would qualify under your definition of "cool guy" since I could have had sex before marriage with multiple women throughout my life. I actually broke off relationships in high school because the girl was pushing for sex.
ReplyDeleteI am incredibly glad that my wife and I were virgins on our wedding day. Sex is about love, but love is about more than sex. The most common argument I hear from people is, "You can't know you're sexually compatible unless you do it before marriage. You also can't know that you're compatible at all unless you live together." If you do not know that you are compatible without those things, you are not properly pursuing your courtship.
I made mistakes before I got married - rounded a few bases short of home plate. Today, I do regret even those mistakes because it would have all been better if experienced safely and securely within the bounds of marriage. As to the claim that I am some kind of "wuss" for waiting until I was married - pshaw! It is far harder for a man to resist sex, particularly if the woman is intent on getting there. Control over one's passions is something that takes practice, determination, and (above all) prayer. I wish I had engaged in more of the latter.
I am happy to talk more about this, but this is only a comment. Thanks for a great post, Joffre. It is nice to know that there are others out there.
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ReplyDeleteI love this comment and I love these posts. My husband and I were both virgins when we got married. He was 25 and I was 20. Both of us could easily have not remained chaste. "There but for the grace of God go I."
ReplyDeleteThe marriage bed is a lovely, wonderful place. It's safe and joyful. This can be just as true for those who were not virgins when they married... For Jesus said, "Behold, I AM making all things new."
But I am thankful for the lack of otherness that came into our marriage bed.
As for the inane sexual compatibility question, does one try ever kind of metal prongy looking thing in all manner of electrical outlets in order to find the right match? Only if he wants to sizzle his insides many times over. The fact is sexual "incompatibility" (or physical sexual dysfunction in some cases) can happen with anyone and at any time during a relationship or marriage (monogamous or not) due to a number of causes (whether physical or emotional) and it is something that a couple must work through (or if they are not married, then they must not work through it but end it anyway.) There will be a lot fewer layers of baggage to strip away between married original virgins even if the problem is one of a physical nature... Physical sexual dysfunction will always include a lot of emotional weight no matter what.
One musn't look very far (the frighteningly red-light-districty girls and ladies clothing aisles, magazine covers, soap commercials, car commercials etc.) to see that the claim that America is a "sexually repressed" nation is about one of the most obnoxiously absurd claims ever made.
My husband is a counselor and a great writer... and I might add, a fantastic... umm... husband. :) He should contribute here.
P.S. I've frequently thought of making a T-shirt that says "Monogamy Rocks!" But haven't gotten around to it. Plus... I don't know if I'm ready for that kind of conversation in the supermarket just yet. (Though I've sort of almost had that conversation in the supermarket anyway, come to think of it, when someone actually asked me if ALL FOUR [they had to count and double check the numbers] of my sons were from the same father. I said, "You DO realize you're asking me about my sex life, right?")
ReplyDeleteMy blog's About Me page, you might enjoy knowing, prominently features my husband's beard. :) http://www.shawnanigans.net/about/
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